Stones Poker
Every poker room has a local hero. I remember when I first started dealing and there was a guy that played in the $10-$25 PLO game who once made the casino a loser for the day because he beat the high-limit blackjack tables for so much. He was the local hero for a while.
I myself was a bit of a local hero in the private games that I dealt and played in the Fort Worth area after I came back with a World Series of Poker bracelet many years ago. My poker room had a regular make the final table of the WSOP this year, and he was a hero for a while.
They come and go in cycles, and they each spend some time at the top of the heap. Eventually, they all fall off, except for a chosen few who make it to the biggest games and the highest stakes tournaments, and then they’re branded local heroes for life.
Recently, there has been a lot of talk about a man named Mike Postle, who has been a local hero at Northern California’s Stones Gambling Hall for quite some time now. He’s now taken his fall, it seems, but that tall pedestal that his local room put him on is partially responsible for how long it took for people to see the truth.
In case you’ve been in a coma for the last week, you can catch up on the story here, here, and here.
Stones Gambling Hall in California said it will halt the live streaming of poker games pending an investigation into cheating allegations made against Mike Postle, one of the game's players.
Mike Postle has been accused of cheating on the Stones Live Poker stream, we will review one of his sessions to see what we can find. Subscribe to M. Stones Live's chat room is not age restricted. We have a fun loving and vibrant community, with only one simple rule to follow. Stones Live chat rules 1. Don't be an asshole! More than two dozen poker players brought the suit filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern California District Court last week against fellow poker player Michael Postle and Stones Gambling.
First, let me say that if Postle is guilty of cheating, it’s entirely his moral failing (and any potential accomplices), that is causing all of the hardship to those affected by this situation, namely those who lost a estimated combined $250,000.
I’m not interested in litigating all of the facts of the case regarding his alleged cheating. If you want to form your own opinion, there are threads on internet forums, Twitter sleuths, spreadsheets, YouTube videos, and all kinds of other things out there. Joey Ingram and Doug Polk’s YouTube videos have been useful to watch to get a grasp of what’s going on.
That said, I think it’s important to figure out how we got this far down the road (15 months, supposedly) without anyone speaking out about the way some of these hands were played.
The people in the commentary booth during the streams started seeing some crazy hands that Mike Postle played, but somehow were not skeptical. They didn’t think there were seeing anything nefarious, just some good old-fashioned soul-reading. They had their local hero and they had to pump him up to hype their live streams, to feel better about losing to this guy, or possibly because they just don’t understand poker and math on a level that would make Postle’s winning suspicious.
There was one person, however, that made this connection. She took notice of how weird things looked in this game, and she brought it up to management. Keep in mind, this was her employer, and the host of her game, yet she didn’t hesitate to rock the boat. If there’s a local hero in this situation, it’s Veronica Brill.
On her last appearance on Stones Live Poker, Brill saw a hand that really started to make her think. You can see her on the broadcast, shaking her head and saying, “It doesn’t make sense. It’s like he knows. It doesn’t make sense.”
This was the last show I did commentary on for Stones Live Poker. A lot of what @Mike_Postle was doing didn't make sense. It was after this show i decided that i wanted to take it to the MF streets.
This clip shows how confused I was by his play
https://t.co/fTJ9gyZlod
— Veronica 2.0 (@Angry_Polak) October 4, 2019
While the guy next to her is laying it on thick about how great a poker player Postle is, able to make incredibly-timed bets and raises when ahead, and some near-miraculous folds when he’s behind. He’s busy sucking up to local hero Mike Postle, when he should be as suspicious as the real local hero sitting next to him, Veronica.
To be fair, I understand the urge to idolize someone who has such incredible results. I understand the impulse to think someone that you’ve known for a long time can’t be capable of something so immoral as cheating in a poker game. Money and fame, even on a local level like Postle was experiencing as the hero for a year or so, is hard to pass up. It feels nice to have people think of you as the best player in the room. Money is helpful for all kinds of things. Mike mentioned in his defense that he’s a single father, and I personally can’t think of very many things I wouldn’t do in order to take care of my kids. So, I get where someone who has just a little bit less of a connection with right and wrong could justify his cheating.
It’s a real testament to Brill’s character that she had the ability to resist that temptation to idolize the local hero, and instead blow the whistle on something that looked wrong. Doing so actually made life more difficult for her in her local circles no doubt, with the backlash she received from Postle’s defenders.
Those of us who are outside of the Stones Gambling Hall community, however, have seen what she has done and we appreciate it. Allow me to give a big thank you to the poker community’s current local hero, Veronica Brill.
Considering your history with Stones and the people there, speaking up about this was a seriously brave and risky move. Writing to say thank you, and I hope the twitter-eggs don’t get you down.
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— TonyDunstTV (@tonydunsttv) October 3, 2019
I remember this set of events and also remember that Veronica was torn on how to proceed. I encouraged her to speak with Justin again which she did. After that conversation she called/txted me and said 'That went as bad is it could possibly have gone'. https://t.co/INdn32jhPd
— Bart Hanson (@BartHanson) October 4, 2019
I should have mentioned this earlier – Veronica is the one that broke this wide open, she suspected Postle was cheating and asked Stones to investigate, when she was rebuffed she then started contacting poker vloggers etc like Joey and here we are. /Thread https://t.co/xTkhnbjcxq
— Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob) October 3, 2019
Wow thanks. I'm so pleased that the truth is coming out https://t.co/hUIhWMeYMA
— Veronica 2.0 (@Angry_Polak) October 7, 2019
So when is there going to be an apology to @Angry_Polak for both accusing her of 'fabricating' the allegations and internally pressuring her in the past not to come forward with this stuff?
Will that happen, or are we just supposed to forget that you vilified the whistleblower?
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— Todd Witteles (@ToddWitteles) October 3, 2019
This story will be one of the biggest scandals in Poker history- There will be a movie made some day about this. Shout out Angry_Polak</a> <a href='https://twitter.com/Joeingram1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw'>Joeingram1@DougPolkPoker and anyone else involved in helping dig the dirt on this Mind-Boggling, somewhat fascinating story. #InTruthWeTrusthttps://t.co/0KIEd6UE5H
— {Tyler Kolness} (@TKOL10) October 4, 2019
Imagine attacking @Angry_Polak’s character after every well respected pro on the planet has weighed in and stands with her.
— Ozzy (@WizardOfAzaan) October 3, 2019
On behalf of Sacramento poker a huge public thank you to Angry_Polak</a> for all that she has done. Thank you to <a href='https://twitter.com/Joeingram1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw'>Joeingram1 for covering this story in the most perfect and enlightening way and thank you to all in 2p2 world and other poker communities for doing your part in this.
— Matt HClaw (@MattHClaw) October 2, 2019